tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post9064876508502471320..comments2023-07-15T07:17:49.535-04:00Comments on Professional Wrestling in U.S. Popular Culture: Judging the Latino Wrestling PerformanceSam Fordhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17233749268141980625noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-48317871873227564352007-10-31T15:06:00.000-04:002007-10-31T15:06:00.000-04:00Wonderful blog.Wonderful blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-83136757598969501422007-10-31T14:37:00.000-04:002007-10-31T14:37:00.000-04:00FGTzOJ Nice Article.FGTzOJ Nice Article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-61231865008001149362007-10-30T09:23:00.000-04:002007-10-30T09:23:00.000-04:00actually, that's brilliant. Thank you. I'm going t...actually, that's brilliant. Thank you. I'm going to pass that on to a couple of people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-30848079331193520492007-10-30T05:32:00.000-04:002007-10-30T05:32:00.000-04:00Hello all!Hello all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-23695663391835220472007-10-30T02:19:00.000-04:002007-10-30T02:19:00.000-04:00Nice Article.Nice Article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-4264452692661841762007-10-28T10:48:00.000-04:002007-10-28T10:48:00.000-04:00Wonderful blog.Wonderful blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-91387444699783666742007-10-27T16:07:00.000-04:002007-10-27T16:07:00.000-04:00Hello all!Hello all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-33186956229443140362007-10-27T15:19:00.000-04:002007-10-27T15:19:00.000-04:00actually, that's brilliant. Thank you. I'm going t...actually, that's brilliant. Thank you. I'm going to pass that on to a couple of people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-88246572963463798092007-10-26T15:18:00.000-04:002007-10-26T15:18:00.000-04:00Hello all!Hello all!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-15005977221014100882007-10-26T14:05:00.000-04:002007-10-26T14:05:00.000-04:00bxW8e8 Thanks to author.bxW8e8 Thanks to author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-62237302795708328842007-10-26T05:05:00.000-04:002007-10-26T05:05:00.000-04:00thPTcC Your blog is great. Articles is interesting...thPTcC Your blog is great. Articles is interesting!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-6361998519306213332007-05-12T00:54:00.000-04:002007-05-12T00:54:00.000-04:00Totally agree with Stevie's post above. LAX is cer...Totally agree with Stevie's post above. LAX is certainly the new generation of Latino wrestlers in America. They pretty much come out every week and live out Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. It's almost always edgy, and most of the fans end up cheering them as heels because they really are exceptional. Loved it when they got to raise the Mexican flag over the arena!The Louxchadorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05658903615792145127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-81624750893982968622007-05-09T16:25:00.000-04:002007-05-09T16:25:00.000-04:00Exactly, Omar. Even if you feel that Serrato is u...Exactly, Omar. Even if you feel that Serrato is ultimately overstating his case, it doesn't meant that he has no point at all...Comparing his work to Seiter's just gives balance to both.Sam Fordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233749268141980625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-43874583649757815042007-05-09T10:57:00.000-04:002007-05-09T10:57:00.000-04:00I would agree that Eddie's character was not meant...I would agree that Eddie's character was not meant to purposely make any social commentary or take a cheap shot at any specific cultural group. I too was rarely offended when watching his antics in the ring. Nevertheless, the impact he's had on the Latino is undeniable. I believe that this is what Serrato is trying to get at. <BR/><BR/>Though he is able to suggest many trends in the wrestling industry (many which paradoxically break with those of earlier generations) some of his claims don't carry as much weight to a more seasoned viewer or, really, a fan of the wrestling program (esp. a minority). You want to believe that Eddie really is just having fun. But as Sam has brought on occasion, the actions of wrestlers are inextricably linked to the society that exists outside the squared circle. I believe that it is from this standpoint that Serrato's appear most valid.Omarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14586811474858202484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-71653227962666018402007-05-08T21:15:00.000-04:002007-05-08T21:15:00.000-04:00I don't take much merit in Eddie's "it's just mean...I don't take much merit in Eddie's "it's just meant to be funny" routine becuase nothing is ever "just" funny. As I've said, it isn't "just" wrestling, and these texts do have impact on people's lives. I think media effects theories as they have been popularly used takes too much agency away from viewers, but it doesn't mean that these texts have no impact at all.<BR/><BR/>But I think you make an important point here: "The piece made it seem like the fans were laughing at Eddie and other Latino wrestlers instead of with them." There is certainly a difference, and I think you are savvy to point this out.<BR/><BR/>Steviehunter, thanks for pointing out LAX as a more modern example as well...<BR/><BR/>Tess, you write, "So this means that what's important (post-modernly) is that these (culturally) stereotyped characters host spaces for community dialogue. The form and result of this dialogue is culture-specific, and thus may be positive/negative/something else entirely, but the fact it exists means we can't dismiss it."<BR/><BR/>Again, I think the fact that WWE is popular internationally raises important questions about a text that is culturally specific but playing in cultures all around the world...I touch on these issues in the study we are reading for tomorrow, but there's a lot more to unpack in that regard...Sam Fordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17233749268141980625noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-10494322657668773932007-05-08T18:07:00.000-04:002007-05-08T18:07:00.000-04:00This is a perfect example of why context is import...This is a perfect example of why context is important when doing any analysis.<BR/><BR/>The problem is (related to) one that's fundamental to all media analysis, and revolves around the question: how is meaning transfered or created in the interplay between author, text, and audience?<BR/><BR/>Modernist theory posited that meaning is embedded in a text by the author, and extracted by the audience. Post-moderist theory relocalizes meaning making to the audience, who create the meaning for the text based on their own cultural context and experience. This helps explain how texts from one area or culture group can be understood in another group, without resorting to 'cultural imperialism'.<BR/><BR/>The one problem with saying that wrestling fans understand the point of the character, and thus aren't influenced by 'negative connotations,' is in determining whether knowledge of the wrestling format forces the audience to have this interpretation. If not, we run again into issues where the character, parodic or not, is the only example of an unfamiliar culture. Which does influence an audience's understanding of that culture. (What if the only exposure to a culture is media-biased? What if the stereotype itself is introduced to an individual/culture through wrestling?)<BR/><BR/>So this means that what's important (post-modernly) is that these (culturally) stereotyped characters host spaces for community dialogue. The form and result of this dialogue is culture-specific, and thus may be positive/negative/something else entirely, but the fact it exists means we can't dismiss it.narwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07763177822411212052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1546665963755719151.post-63847230091051493852007-05-08T13:33:00.000-04:002007-05-08T13:33:00.000-04:00Steviehunter weighing in again:For a really good l...Steviehunter weighing in again:<BR/><BR/>For a really good look at latinos in wrestling I suggest you see TNA's LAX gimmick.<BR/><BR/>Homicide is a friend of mine, and in TNA, has been allowed to portray his character almost exactly as it was created on the indy circuit with very little watering down. <BR/><BR/>He, Hernandez and Konnan have been cast as Latino extremists--the gimmick is realistic and serious and I think you'd enjoy seeing it for style contrasts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com